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一、二月很棒的新专辑
九间 发表于 2007-02-11 22:51:22
今年大丰收!开首的两个月听到很多好专辑!好兴奋!一一道来。排名分先后。

Arcade Fire
Neon Bible
indie rock
2007.3.6
Merge Records
www.arcadefire.com
推荐曲:No Cars Go、Windowsill、Neon Bible、Intervention、My Body Is a Cage、The Well And The Lighthouse……整张专辑。




Great!如果你对2004年的<Funeral>记忆犹新,我相信你一定对他们的第二张专辑<Neon Bible>充满期待。新专辑果然不负众望,依旧有很多特别的想法,依旧有很棒的音乐,很棒的设计。真的,我觉得无需多说。更可喜的是,巡演已经展开,我是看不到了,希望能载到新的视频。

Explosions In The Sky
All of a Sudden I Miss Everyone
post rock
2007.2.20
Temporary Residence
推荐曲:总共六首,整张专辑。





第一首<The Birth and Death of the Day>的开头就让你震惊不已。2005年的<How Strange,Innocence>是旧作发表,所以今年的新专辑距离真正的上张专辑<The Earth Is Not a Cold Dead Place>已经有四年了。去年Mogwai有动作后,我就一直在期待今年空中大爆炸的专辑,一切都是如此完美。

Of Montreal
Hissing Fauna Are You the Destroyer
indie rock
2007.1.23
Polyvinyl Records
推荐曲:the Past Is a Grotesque Animal、Suffer For Fashion、a Sentence of Sorts In Kongsvinger、Heimdalsgate Like a Promethean Curse、Gronlandic Edit




喜欢David Bowie的家伙。我手头有他们以前的两张<The Sunlandic Twins>、<Satanic Panic in the Attic>,并没有发现很特别。没想到今年这张会如此让我一听倾心。比照之前,今年这张发生了一些变化,比如最让我喜欢的<the past is a grotesque animal>,近12分钟的长度,有悲观的东西在里头,正好切合我最近的心情。爽死了!肯定是我今年的年度最佳单曲之一。

Lcd Soundsystem
Sound of Silver
indie rock / dance
2007.3.20
Capitol
推荐曲:All My Friends、Watch the Tapes、New York I Love You、North American Scum




2005年的同名专辑是我的心头肉。当年我居然以10元的超低价拿下双碟装的<Lcd Soundsystem>,此事一直让我兴奋不已。老板不认识的小乐队就是好,价格便宜。此新专辑很早以前就漏出来,更是让我听不厌。M83是我心中电子的新势力,Lcd Soundsystem就是舞曲的新势力。我对舞曲和电子涉及很少,但是止不住对他们的热爱。

Low
Drums & Guns
indie rock
2007.3.20
Sub Pop
推荐曲:Belarus、Murderer



Low出专辑肯定要听的。从<Belarus>开始,他们就势必要把你带入他们的情绪中。缓缓道来,我相信那是一直出色的不能抗拒的Low。

Albert Hammond Jr.
Yours to Keep
2006.10.12
Rough Trade
Enhanced:
2007.3.6
New Line Records
推荐曲:In Transit、Back To the 101


这张专辑口碑不好。我看到评论说<Cartoon Music for Superheroes>有the Beach Boys的影子,<Blue Skies>是John Lennon的拷贝,而<Back to the 101>拷贝了the Pixies。Albert没有好好利用自己富有魅力的声音,用到了朋友Sean Lennon、Ben Kweller、Julian Casablancas的声音。反正就是很没Albert自己的特色。大家还是看别人的评论好,我承认自己超级喜欢the strokes,以至于我的评价十分不公正。我清楚,the strokes的好时光已经过去了,越来越多的人受不了Julian晕晕乎乎的声音,他在现场也时常晕晕乎乎的。整个乐队未来走向不明。但是怎么办啊,我不能忘记当年听到Julian结婚的消息如何令我伤心欲绝。长成这样的人就是让我有归属感(又比如克雷斯波)。我太爱他,爱他的整个乐队。听到很有the strokes风格的<In Transit>——那吉他果然老样子,怎不叫人喜欢?

Klaxons
Myths of the Near Future
indie rock / dance
2007.2.1
Universal / Polydor
推荐曲:Atlantis To Interzone


每年都有很棒的搞Brit pop的小乐队涌现出来,给我们带来不同的感受。而我特别喜欢有活力的小乐队。今年一开年就发现了Klaxons。虽说并不是最惊艳的,效果和当年的Bloc Party不能比。这般闹腾中欠缺了一些定得下来的东西。不过期待一个美妙的未来吧。

Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Some Loud Thunder
indie rock
2007.1.30
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
推荐曲:Satan Said Dance

我一直对Clap Your Hands Say Yeah心存期待。因为他们是真正的独立音乐人,不签约于任何厂牌的魄力使得他们显得很特别。但是第二张明显不如第一张同名专辑来得棒。或许是才华用尽?而且闻说他们的现场也不怎么样。希望下一次好一些,不要成为流星。

Bloc Party
Weekend In the City
indie rock
2007.2.6
Vice Records
推荐曲:the Prayer、I Still Remember、Waiting For the 7:18

所以说第一张专辑做得太棒是很让人头痛的事。天晓得我有多喜欢Bloc Party!Russell和Kele是多么绝配!在第一张几乎首首优秀的前提下,第二张只有半张好歌,真的不能算好。我认为Kele是个野心很大的家伙,信心满满的黑人前途不可估量。
另外两张尚没载全的,部分试听听下来,部分MV和Live看下来,我估计同样会很棒的专辑:

Patrick Wolf
The Magic Position
singer-songwriter / indie rock
2007.3.29
Universal / Polydor
最近又回顾了不少Patrick,<wind in the wires>的MV真是令人难忘啊!这几年,他的声音、音乐和漂亮的外貌一直那么让我难忘。

Logh
North
indie
2007.2.8
Bad Taste
Logh一直是值得期待的,今年也不例外。

Arcade Fire
Neon Bible
indie rock
2007.3.6
Merge Records
www.arcadefire.com
推荐曲:No Cars Go、Windowsill、Neon Bible、Intervention、My Body Is a Cage、The Well And The Lighthouse……整张专辑。




Great!如果你对2004年的<Funeral>记忆犹新,我相信你一定对他们的第二张专辑<Neon Bible>充满期待。新专辑果然不负众望,依旧有很多特别的想法,依旧有很棒的音乐,很棒的设计。真的,我觉得无需多说。更可喜的是,巡演已经展开,我是看不到了,希望能载到新的视频。

Explosions In The Sky
All of a Sudden I Miss Everyone
post rock
2007.2.20
Temporary Residence
推荐曲:总共六首,整张专辑。





第一首<The Birth and Death of the Day>的开头就让你震惊不已。2005年的<How Strange,Innocence>是旧作发表,所以今年的新专辑距离真正的上张专辑<The Earth Is Not a Cold Dead Place>已经有四年了。去年Mogwai有动作后,我就一直在期待今年空中大爆炸的专辑,一切都是如此完美。

Of Montreal
Hissing Fauna Are You the Destroyer
indie rock
2007.1.23
Polyvinyl Records
推荐曲:the Past Is a Grotesque Animal、Suffer For Fashion、a Sentence of Sorts In Kongsvinger、Heimdalsgate Like a Promethean Curse、Gronlandic Edit




喜欢David Bowie的家伙。我手头有他们以前的两张<The Sunlandic Twins>、<Satanic Panic in the Attic>,并没有发现很特别。没想到今年这张会如此让我一听倾心。比照之前,今年这张发生了一些变化,比如最让我喜欢的<the past is a grotesque animal>,近12分钟的长度,有悲观的东西在里头,正好切合我最近的心情。爽死了!肯定是我今年的年度最佳单曲之一。

Lcd Soundsystem
Sound of Silver
indie rock / dance
2007.3.20
Capitol
推荐曲:All My Friends、Watch the Tapes、New York I Love You、North American Scum




2005年的同名专辑是我的心头肉。当年我居然以10元的超低价拿下双碟装的<Lcd Soundsystem>,此事一直让我兴奋不已。老板不认识的小乐队就是好,价格便宜。此新专辑很早以前就漏出来,更是让我听不厌。M83是我心中电子的新势力,Lcd Soundsystem就是舞曲的新势力。我对舞曲和电子涉及很少,但是止不住对他们的热爱。

Low
Drums & Guns
indie rock
2007.3.20
Sub Pop
推荐曲:Belarus、Murderer



Low出专辑肯定要听的。从<Belarus>开始,他们就势必要把你带入他们的情绪中。缓缓道来,我相信那是一直出色的不能抗拒的Low。

Albert Hammond Jr.
Yours to Keep
2006.10.12
Rough Trade
Enhanced:
2007.3.6
New Line Records
推荐曲:In Transit、Back To the 101


这张专辑口碑不好。我看到评论说<Cartoon Music for Superheroes>有the Beach Boys的影子,<Blue Skies>是John Lennon的拷贝,而<Back to the 101>拷贝了the Pixies。Albert没有好好利用自己富有魅力的声音,用到了朋友Sean Lennon、Ben Kweller、Julian Casablancas的声音。反正就是很没Albert自己的特色。大家还是看别人的评论好,我承认自己超级喜欢the strokes,以至于我的评价十分不公正。我清楚,the strokes的好时光已经过去了,越来越多的人受不了Julian晕晕乎乎的声音,他在现场也时常晕晕乎乎的。整个乐队未来走向不明。但是怎么办啊,我不能忘记当年听到Julian结婚的消息如何令我伤心欲绝。长成这样的人就是让我有归属感(又比如克雷斯波)。我太爱他,爱他的整个乐队。听到很有the strokes风格的<In Transit>——那吉他果然老样子,怎不叫人喜欢?

Klaxons
Myths of the Near Future
indie rock / dance
2007.2.1
Universal / Polydor
推荐曲:Atlantis To Interzone


每年都有很棒的搞Brit pop的小乐队涌现出来,给我们带来不同的感受。而我特别喜欢有活力的小乐队。今年一开年就发现了Klaxons。虽说并不是最惊艳的,效果和当年的Bloc Party不能比。这般闹腾中欠缺了一些定得下来的东西。不过期待一个美妙的未来吧。

Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Some Loud Thunder
indie rock
2007.1.30
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
推荐曲:Satan Said Dance

我一直对Clap Your Hands Say Yeah心存期待。因为他们是真正的独立音乐人,不签约于任何厂牌的魄力使得他们显得很特别。但是第二张明显不如第一张同名专辑来得棒。或许是才华用尽?而且闻说他们的现场也不怎么样。希望下一次好一些,不要成为流星。

Bloc Party
Weekend In the City
indie rock
2007.2.6
Vice Records
推荐曲:the Prayer、I Still Remember、Waiting For the 7:18

所以说第一张专辑做得太棒是很让人头痛的事。天晓得我有多喜欢Bloc Party!Russell和Kele是多么绝配!在第一张几乎首首优秀的前提下,第二张只有半张好歌,真的不能算好。我认为Kele是个野心很大的家伙,信心满满的黑人前途不可估量。
另外两张尚没载全的,部分试听听下来,部分MV和Live看下来,我估计同样会很棒的专辑:

Patrick Wolf
The Magic Position
singer-songwriter / indie rock
2007.3.29
Universal / Polydor
最近又回顾了不少Patrick,<wind in the wires>的MV真是令人难忘啊!这几年,他的声音、音乐和漂亮的外貌一直那么让我难忘。

Logh
North
indie
2007.2.8
Bad Taste
Logh一直是值得期待的,今年也不例外。
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九间 发表于 2007-02-06 21:15:30
昨天晚上我咳嗽咳出了血。很多,每口都有。
面对这种情况,一个悲观主义者就惊慌失措了。这怎么得了呢?我还没有写出那部震撼人心的伟大小说来,我还没有成为小说家。我还有很多未竟的心愿,比如很多演唱会没有看过,很多书没有来得及看,德语还没有学好,没有去过德国,也没有去过英国,也没来得及在挪威购置房产,没有参加过德国的啤酒节,没有亲临斯坦福桥看一场英超,没来得及报答母亲,也没来得及找到我的亚当。
甚至没来得及亲自彩绘卧室墙壁,没来得及买一个大书橱,大CD架,没来得及多吃一点羊肉,没来得及去内蒙古什么的内陆地带尝一尝烤全羊,没来得及把买来的书看完,把买来的片子看完。
没来得及改掉坏习惯。比如思考问题的时候咬指甲,不敢走旋转楼梯,恐高,还有在小事上以偷懒为根本出发点。
如果我现在离开这个世界真是太可惜了。那个不值得押宝的未来还没有到来。一个英年早逝的人能够得到的是他的亲朋好友无限的怀念和遗憾。我爸爸有个高中同学,二十出头的年纪就死于疾病,那可是班上的大才子。班上的大美女在三十岁刚出头的时候,在女儿才会说话的时候,于一个阴雨天从楼梯上滑下来,撞击到头部而死。
一个年轻的悲观主义者恐怖这些事情。他会突然片面地觉得长寿的人都是庸人,而那些天才莫名其妙都早逝了,要么为了那些不开化的人而死。他会把头蒙在被子里。黑暗中满是卡夫卡咳嗽不止狂吐血的样子。
面对这种情况,一个悲观主义者就惊慌失措了。这怎么得了呢?我还没有写出那部震撼人心的伟大小说来,我还没有成为小说家。我还有很多未竟的心愿,比如很多演唱会没有看过,很多书没有来得及看,德语还没有学好,没有去过德国,也没有去过英国,也没来得及在挪威购置房产,没有参加过德国的啤酒节,没有亲临斯坦福桥看一场英超,没来得及报答母亲,也没来得及找到我的亚当。
甚至没来得及亲自彩绘卧室墙壁,没来得及买一个大书橱,大CD架,没来得及多吃一点羊肉,没来得及去内蒙古什么的内陆地带尝一尝烤全羊,没来得及把买来的书看完,把买来的片子看完。
没来得及改掉坏习惯。比如思考问题的时候咬指甲,不敢走旋转楼梯,恐高,还有在小事上以偷懒为根本出发点。
如果我现在离开这个世界真是太可惜了。那个不值得押宝的未来还没有到来。一个英年早逝的人能够得到的是他的亲朋好友无限的怀念和遗憾。我爸爸有个高中同学,二十出头的年纪就死于疾病,那可是班上的大才子。班上的大美女在三十岁刚出头的时候,在女儿才会说话的时候,于一个阴雨天从楼梯上滑下来,撞击到头部而死。
一个年轻的悲观主义者恐怖这些事情。他会突然片面地觉得长寿的人都是庸人,而那些天才莫名其妙都早逝了,要么为了那些不开化的人而死。他会把头蒙在被子里。黑暗中满是卡夫卡咳嗽不止狂吐血的样子。
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谈一谈对大学本科生自办校内报刊杂志网站的看法
九间 发表于 2007-02-06 20:39:25
本文的立足点是大学校园内的媒体建设。主创人员为学生,面向本科生。
大学校园里的媒体建设十分活跃。每周都有免费的号称面向大学生的杂志派发,有很多海报、横幅,每天有报纸,更有活跃的网上天地,比如校园网、BBS和FTP等等。我个人觉得其中令人振奋,让同学们期待的几乎没有。各媒体功能不同,下面分开来谈一谈。
先说杂志。自我觉得我们不缺新闻杂志,我们缺真正关心大学生文化生活的杂志,缺一个让有才华的同学可以展示的平台,缺让同学和老师交流的平台。我看过一些老师的博,我们有些老师在报刊杂志上的专栏,其中有不错的东西,可以约稿啊。我发现同学中有人对哲学有兴趣,有些人在自己灌录唱片,有些人对文学有兴趣,而有些人对音乐有兴趣……风格迥异,但都同样精彩。我们的杂志应该是展示这种精彩的地方。我希望可以给大家一个期待。我们的杂志不是单单反映学生会活动的,是一个思想交流的平台。
这里面涉及到一个问题。就是我们是以同学们是否喜欢为主还是以我们自己的立场为主。我觉得应该以我们自己的立场为主,有一个明确的定位,培养阅读群。我不相信市场调研,所谓的反映民意。我不相信大众的口味。我们的口味跑在大众前头,才有希望。这样看来,平日里派发的杂志中垃圾太多了。比如有一本抄袭《读者》的,不是垃圾是什么?
我觉得我们可以讲讲文化生活,戏剧,小说,哲学,音乐,建筑,设计,什么都可以。完全放手让同学们做自己喜欢的东西,交计划就可以了,中间没有插手。我现在想想那真是愉快的事,因为可以找借口和喜欢的老师聊天了,讨到老师的电话号码,和老师聊人生,听老师讲老师自己的生活。学校里有很多好老师,搞文化交流和学术交流不能少了他们。
我希望每个在大学里投身媒体共建的同学都能干得舒心。
接下来是报纸。从一开始我就不明白为什么要出报纸。我个人感觉每周一期是至少的,不然就不能叫报纸。如果报纸上的东西不存在过时的可能,那就不算新闻了,就不好玩了。我们有这个精力么?当然,这一块要做,那个派发到寝室的以美女为封面的报纸太垃圾,空洞无味,里面的填字游戏也设计得不好——填字游戏的娱乐性至少要达到《外滩画报》的程度,这是下限。如果报新闻,那就扎扎实实做好校园新闻。如果不做新闻,那就做好杂志,让它一月一期。加大发行量。
不过话说回来,我对报新闻没兴趣。因为在这方面我真的没有天赋,写不好。而且我觉得,活动前期的宣传比较重要。之后应该有一些抓重点的深入报道,而这些报道应该看个人兴趣的。当然,这其中涉及到很多问题。比如如果我们发文指出某某来演讲的老师的失误,这文能发么?很多条条框框,那会不会成为机关刊物?那有什么意义呢?校园刊物本来就是机关刊物么?
讲到网络。同济的BBS太杂。但充分体现了群众的力量。我觉得现在去做一个包罗万象的像新浪一样的门户网站难度大,意义小。复旦(不得不提复旦)敢于尝试新东西,复旦2004年有了自己的博客,也有搜索引擎。更有像豆瓣一样的交流讨论区。我个人觉得网络是一个充分发挥网友集体智慧的地方,我个人几乎从不去新浪这样的流氓地方。新浪有多流氓有多势力有多不自由?我们需要一个自由发表言论的地方,同学们自己报新闻的地方,同学们自己聚集的地方。我个人感觉,校园里还是有很多有趣的人的,但是都不知道藏在什么地方。
挖掘同学们的力量,这应该是大学同学自办媒体的出发点。
大学校园里的媒体建设十分活跃。每周都有免费的号称面向大学生的杂志派发,有很多海报、横幅,每天有报纸,更有活跃的网上天地,比如校园网、BBS和FTP等等。我个人觉得其中令人振奋,让同学们期待的几乎没有。各媒体功能不同,下面分开来谈一谈。
先说杂志。自我觉得我们不缺新闻杂志,我们缺真正关心大学生文化生活的杂志,缺一个让有才华的同学可以展示的平台,缺让同学和老师交流的平台。我看过一些老师的博,我们有些老师在报刊杂志上的专栏,其中有不错的东西,可以约稿啊。我发现同学中有人对哲学有兴趣,有些人在自己灌录唱片,有些人对文学有兴趣,而有些人对音乐有兴趣……风格迥异,但都同样精彩。我们的杂志应该是展示这种精彩的地方。我希望可以给大家一个期待。我们的杂志不是单单反映学生会活动的,是一个思想交流的平台。
这里面涉及到一个问题。就是我们是以同学们是否喜欢为主还是以我们自己的立场为主。我觉得应该以我们自己的立场为主,有一个明确的定位,培养阅读群。我不相信市场调研,所谓的反映民意。我不相信大众的口味。我们的口味跑在大众前头,才有希望。这样看来,平日里派发的杂志中垃圾太多了。比如有一本抄袭《读者》的,不是垃圾是什么?
我觉得我们可以讲讲文化生活,戏剧,小说,哲学,音乐,建筑,设计,什么都可以。完全放手让同学们做自己喜欢的东西,交计划就可以了,中间没有插手。我现在想想那真是愉快的事,因为可以找借口和喜欢的老师聊天了,讨到老师的电话号码,和老师聊人生,听老师讲老师自己的生活。学校里有很多好老师,搞文化交流和学术交流不能少了他们。
我希望每个在大学里投身媒体共建的同学都能干得舒心。
接下来是报纸。从一开始我就不明白为什么要出报纸。我个人感觉每周一期是至少的,不然就不能叫报纸。如果报纸上的东西不存在过时的可能,那就不算新闻了,就不好玩了。我们有这个精力么?当然,这一块要做,那个派发到寝室的以美女为封面的报纸太垃圾,空洞无味,里面的填字游戏也设计得不好——填字游戏的娱乐性至少要达到《外滩画报》的程度,这是下限。如果报新闻,那就扎扎实实做好校园新闻。如果不做新闻,那就做好杂志,让它一月一期。加大发行量。
不过话说回来,我对报新闻没兴趣。因为在这方面我真的没有天赋,写不好。而且我觉得,活动前期的宣传比较重要。之后应该有一些抓重点的深入报道,而这些报道应该看个人兴趣的。当然,这其中涉及到很多问题。比如如果我们发文指出某某来演讲的老师的失误,这文能发么?很多条条框框,那会不会成为机关刊物?那有什么意义呢?校园刊物本来就是机关刊物么?
讲到网络。同济的BBS太杂。但充分体现了群众的力量。我觉得现在去做一个包罗万象的像新浪一样的门户网站难度大,意义小。复旦(不得不提复旦)敢于尝试新东西,复旦2004年有了自己的博客,也有搜索引擎。更有像豆瓣一样的交流讨论区。我个人觉得网络是一个充分发挥网友集体智慧的地方,我个人几乎从不去新浪这样的流氓地方。新浪有多流氓有多势力有多不自由?我们需要一个自由发表言论的地方,同学们自己报新闻的地方,同学们自己聚集的地方。我个人感觉,校园里还是有很多有趣的人的,但是都不知道藏在什么地方。
挖掘同学们的力量,这应该是大学同学自办媒体的出发点。
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九间 发表于 2007-02-06 20:21:07

看了John Beger的《观看之道》(Ways of Seeing),突然想到了一些无关的事情。
关于占有欲。我突然意识到大量购进图书和唱片并不是纯粹出于欣赏,而是出于占有的需求。当我把书买回家按照类型把它和它的同类放在一起的时候,它们构成的是我的知识体系的外露,是我炫耀的资本。过去我还迷恋于双层的书架,可以把我认为有隐喻色彩的书藏到诸如英汉汉英词典、汉语大词典、德汉词典之后,可以避免别人的骚扰。但是很快我就发现最受折磨的人是我自己。我希望可以每天看到那些书,看到那些战利品,看到那些用从伙食费中省下来的钱买进的书。那些书毫无用处,以后也不会升值,但它们越是不会升值越会造成我的依赖。我记得一位中文系的朋友看到我案头那套外国现代派作品选说我的口味像她的系主任。这就是说笑了。用一个人所拥有的物品来决定这个人的地位和品位,这是十分平常的事,同时也是最莫名其妙、无道理可言的。
观看艺术品是这样,买书是这样,很多事情都是这样。有一种感染我们的东西叫做占有欲,一件艺术品如果能挑逗起观者的某种欲望,造成某种互动,那将是完美的。而那些把艺术品搬回家摆设的行为也是个人享乐的极大乐趣。偶有违反这种规律的,不屈不挠的作品便容易被忽视,被排挤,直到它也谄媚地投入到世俗中去。
再看一个例子,比如专辑。我们买一张专辑真的只是为了里面的音乐么?现在有免费的MP3下载,为什么还要去买专辑呢?为了音质吗?事实上某些无损压缩和某些更兼顾品质的有损压缩损伤音质并不如我们想象中厉害。一幅高档的耳机能带来的震撼决不仅仅像iPod、音乐手机等播放媒体的广告上所展现的那样,事情远远更加充满魅力。因为你是不花钱免费地永久性地占有了这段音乐,这段实际上有瑕疵但你听不出来的音乐。这种占有如此方便,如此廉价,往往导致我们像奴隶一样拼命地下载,拼命地和别人共享。
但是买回一张专辑就完全不同了。我们买回了里面的设计,实现了占有,实现了物质上的彻底占有。尤其当一张CD或唱片在市面上并不常见的时候。我给我的那些CD排序,不停排序,一会儿按照国家,一会儿按照类型,一会儿按照厂牌,一会儿按照产地……但是我更希望电脑里的东西按照音序排列,因为这样更符合字典的特质,更容易找。
真的是很奇怪的事。贩卖的人或许不能明白其中奥妙。尤其是不顾物品价值,把什么都当废品卖以求薄利多销的人。他们没有想到过分低价是对物品本身的侮辱。有时候手头稍微有点钱的人就是那么贱地希望商品价格至少应该高到足以炫耀得出去。占有的代价越大,占有的冲动就越大,随后产生的喜悦越发掺杂。
正像书中说的:魅力的力量寄寓于假想的快乐。
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近日听歌
九间 发表于 2007-02-04 21:14:06
我希望他是gay(可惜不是),so sweet!只比我大三岁! 第三张专辑了吧,音乐一如既往好听! >>Q:Patrick是过去乌黑的头发好看还是现在红头发好看呢?以前刚出来的时候好嫩。雪白的皮肤,乌黑的头发——一度还比较长,大大的眼睛,整个白雪公主清纯状。(没有啦,冤枉啊,lb心中永远的白雪公主是Brian,默念。)红头发妖艳很多。
arcade fire <no cars go> live
http://arcadefire.com 他们的网站向来美轮美奂,很有创意。这两天我一直在听新专辑<Neon Bible>。棒!>>Q:台上最美型的就是Owen了。对不对呀?
final fantasy <no cars go> live
一个好玩的东西。就是环境暗了一点。
final fantasy < This Modern Love > live
Owen翻唱bloc party。>>Q:Owen唱到高潮的时候,啊,Kele,不要晕倒。FF去年的< he poos clouds >最近被我重新翻出来听。对了,bloc party+Albert Hammond Jr. 会是什么样子哩?bloc party最近很顺啊。可惜新mv我不喜欢。小Albert那张<yours to keep>也不错的说!好难下,下得累死我了。另外不得不提的是,听parasite姐姐说the klaxons不错,于是我去听啦,哇,有味!
P.S. 欢迎上http://keepvid.com 下载youtube上的东东。
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J·阿尔弗瑞德·普鲁弗洛克的情歌
九间 发表于 2007-02-01 21:23:07
本人钟情小说的艺术多年,不料这两天沉醉于诗歌艺术。说来汗颜,对诗歌尤其国外诗歌涉及很少,几乎是空白。前日看到《外国现代派作品选A》中对艾略特知名诗篇《J·阿尔弗瑞德·普鲁弗洛克的情歌》的分析以及查良铮的中文译本,被那篇诗歌含义解析吸引,但中文译本读来了无趣味,于是当日立即去看了英文原作<The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock>,无心之举,随便看看,却发现原诗十分顺畅优美,很有韵味,并不难读,诗中氛围很容易感受到,描绘生动形象,意境略带悲凉,雾蒙蒙中,不相配的日常琐碎中,消失的生命,众生了无生机的生活,敏感和矛盾。很美的诗。令人费解的是普及率很高的查良铮译本多处破坏原诗意境,错误比较多,尤其前半段,翻译比较多的依靠译者自己的理解,既有破句又有单词翻译错误。于是寻觅其他译本,但网上基本都是查良铮译本,并且存在引用中新增错误或者漏句的情况。只是新找到汤永宽的译本,改善些,但还是不能完全透出原貌。原来此诗中文译本所起作用只是类文言文的现代文翻译,帮助理解用,省去一些翻字典的时间,然后就是抛开中文译本,直接体会原诗。现摘录原诗于下。有兴趣的不妨点击以下地址:http://www.bartleby.com/people/Eliot-Th.html,可以看到T.S. Eliot诸多精彩诗篇。
The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock //作于1915年,收录于<Prufrock and Other Observations> (1917),早期作品。加粗为好句。其实有很多好段落,整体上十分统一,真是可以一读再读的诗,令人相见恨晚。下划线为我认为比较难翻译的句子。
S’io credesse che mia risposta fosse
A persona che mai tornasse al mondo,
Questa fiamma staria senza piu scosse.
Ma perciocche giammai di questo fondo
Non torno vivo alcun, s’i’odo il vero,
Senza tema d’infamia ti rispondo. 意大利文,引自《神曲》。
LET us go then, you and I,
When the evening is spread out against the sky
Like a patient etherised upon a table; //这句是相当精妙的比喻。夜幕在天空慢慢铺展开来,就像被麻醉的病人舒展开来的样子,不仅形态上像,麻醉后的意志是麻痹的,人是从有感慢慢转到无感的,那种状态也很传神。
Let us go, through certain half-deserted streets,
The muttering retreats 5
Of restless nights in one-night cheap hotels
And sawdust restaurants with oyster-shells: //环境。这三行查良铮的翻译乱七八糟。
Streets that follow like a tedious argument
Of insidious intent
To lead you to an overwhelming question … 10
Oh, do not ask, “What is it?”
Let us go and make our visit.
In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo. //查良铮刻意加上“画家”米开朗基罗,不合适。
The yellow fog that rubs its back upon the window-panes, 15
The yellow smoke that rubs its muzzle on the window-panes
Licked its tongue into the corners of the evening,
Lingered upon the pools that stand in drains,
Let fall upon its back the soot that falls from chimneys,
Slipped by the terrace, made a sudden leap, 20
And seeing that it was a soft October night,
Curled once about the house, and fell asleep.
And indeed there will be time
For the yellow smoke that slides along the street,
Rubbing its back upon the window-panes; 25
There will be time, there will be time
To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet;
There will be time to murder and create,
And time for all the works and days of hands
That lift and drop a question on your plate; 30 //翻译难点。
Time for you and time for me,
And time yet for a hundred indecisions,
And for a hundred visions and revisions, //注意visions、revisions是名词,for要翻出来。
Before the taking of a toast and tea.
In the room the women come and go 35
Talking of Michelangelo.
And indeed there will be time
To wonder, “Do I dare?” and, “Do I dare?”
Time to turn back and descend the stair,
With a bald spot in the middle of my hair— 40
[They will say: “How his hair is growing thin!”]
My morning coat, my collar mounting firmly to the chin,
My necktie rich and modest, but asserted by a simple pin—
[They will say: “But how his arms and legs are thin!”]
Do I dare 45
Disturb the universe?
In a minute there is time
For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse.
For I have known them all already, known them all:—
Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons, 50
I have measured out my life with coffee spoons;
I know the voices dying with a dying fall
Beneath the music from a farther room.
So how should I presume?
And I have known the eyes already, known them all— 55
The eyes that fix you in a formulated phrase,
And when I am formulated, sprawling on a pin,
When I am pinned and wriggling on the wall,
Then how should I begin
To spit out all the butt-ends of my days and ways? 60
And how should I presume?
And I have known the arms already, known them all—
Arms that are braceleted and white and bare
[But in the lamplight, downed with light brown hair!]
It is perfume from a dress 65
That makes me so digress?
Arms that lie along a table, or wrap about a shawl.
And should I then presume?
And how should I begin?
. . . . .
Shall I say, I have gone at dusk through narrow streets 70
And watched the smoke that rises from the pipes
Of lonely men in shirt-sleeves, leaning out of windows?…
I should have been a pair of ragged claws
Scuttling across the floors of silent seas. //floors怎么翻呢?一般做法是不翻,但没有此词少很多乐趣。
. . . . .
And the afternoon, the evening, sleeps so peacefully! 75
Smoothed by long fingers,
Asleep … tired … or it malingers,
Stretched on the floor, here beside you and me.
Should I, after tea and cakes and ices,
Have the strength to force the moment to its crisis? 80
But though I have wept and fasted, wept and prayed,
Though I have seen my head [grown slightly bald] brought in upon a platter,
I am no prophet—and here’s no great matter;
I have seen the moment of my greatness flicker,
And I have seen the eternal Footman hold my coat, and snicker, 85
And in short, I was afraid.
And would it have been worth it, after all,
After the cups, the marmalade, the tea,
Among the porcelain, among some talk of you and me,
Would it have been worth while, 90
To have bitten off the matter with a smile,
To have squeezed the universe into a ball
To roll it toward some overwhelming question,
To say: “I am Lazarus, come from the dead,
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all”— 95
If one, settling a pillow by her head,
Should say: “That is not what I meant at all.
That is not it, at all.”
And would it have been worth it, after all,
Would it have been worth while, 100
After the sunsets and the dooryards and the sprinkled streets,
After the novels, after the teacups, after the skirts that trail along the floor—
And this, and so much more?—
It is impossible to say just what I mean!
But as if a magic lantern threw the nerves in patterns on a screen: 105
Would it have been worth while
If one, settling a pillow or throwing off a shawl,
And turning toward the window, should say:
“That is not it at all,
That is not what I meant, at all.”
. . . . . 110
No! I am not Prince Hamlet, nor was meant to be;
Am an attendant lord, one that will do
To swell a progress, start a scene or two,
Advise the prince; no doubt, an easy tool,
Deferential, glad to be of use, 115
Politic, cautious, and meticulous;
Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse;
At times, indeed, almost ridiculous—
Almost, at times, the Fool.
I grow old … I grow old … 120
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.
Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach?
I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.
I do not think that they will sing to me. 125
I have seen them riding seaward on the waves
Combing the white hair of the waves blown back
When the wind blows the water white and black.
We have lingered in the chambers of the sea
By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown 130
Till human voices wake us, and we drown.
The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock //作于1915年,收录于<Prufrock and Other Observations> (1917),早期作品。加粗为好句。其实有很多好段落,整体上十分统一,真是可以一读再读的诗,令人相见恨晚。下划线为我认为比较难翻译的句子。
S’io credesse che mia risposta fosse
A persona che mai tornasse al mondo,
Questa fiamma staria senza piu scosse.
Ma perciocche giammai di questo fondo
Non torno vivo alcun, s’i’odo il vero,
Senza tema d’infamia ti rispondo. 意大利文,引自《神曲》。
LET us go then, you and I,
When the evening is spread out against the sky
Like a patient etherised upon a table; //这句是相当精妙的比喻。夜幕在天空慢慢铺展开来,就像被麻醉的病人舒展开来的样子,不仅形态上像,麻醉后的意志是麻痹的,人是从有感慢慢转到无感的,那种状态也很传神。
Let us go, through certain half-deserted streets,
The muttering retreats 5
Of restless nights in one-night cheap hotels
And sawdust restaurants with oyster-shells: //环境。这三行查良铮的翻译乱七八糟。
Streets that follow like a tedious argument
Of insidious intent
To lead you to an overwhelming question … 10
Oh, do not ask, “What is it?”
Let us go and make our visit.
In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo. //查良铮刻意加上“画家”米开朗基罗,不合适。
The yellow fog that rubs its back upon the window-panes, 15
The yellow smoke that rubs its muzzle on the window-panes
Licked its tongue into the corners of the evening,
Lingered upon the pools that stand in drains,
Let fall upon its back the soot that falls from chimneys,
Slipped by the terrace, made a sudden leap, 20
And seeing that it was a soft October night,
Curled once about the house, and fell asleep.
And indeed there will be time
For the yellow smoke that slides along the street,
Rubbing its back upon the window-panes; 25
There will be time, there will be time
To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet;
There will be time to murder and create,
And time for all the works and days of hands
That lift and drop a question on your plate; 30 //翻译难点。
Time for you and time for me,
And time yet for a hundred indecisions,
And for a hundred visions and revisions, //注意visions、revisions是名词,for要翻出来。
Before the taking of a toast and tea.
In the room the women come and go 35
Talking of Michelangelo.
And indeed there will be time
To wonder, “Do I dare?” and, “Do I dare?”
Time to turn back and descend the stair,
With a bald spot in the middle of my hair— 40
[They will say: “How his hair is growing thin!”]
My morning coat, my collar mounting firmly to the chin,
My necktie rich and modest, but asserted by a simple pin—
[They will say: “But how his arms and legs are thin!”]
Do I dare 45
Disturb the universe?
In a minute there is time
For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse.
For I have known them all already, known them all:—
Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons, 50
I have measured out my life with coffee spoons;
I know the voices dying with a dying fall
Beneath the music from a farther room.
So how should I presume?
And I have known the eyes already, known them all— 55
The eyes that fix you in a formulated phrase,
And when I am formulated, sprawling on a pin,
When I am pinned and wriggling on the wall,
Then how should I begin
To spit out all the butt-ends of my days and ways? 60
And how should I presume?
And I have known the arms already, known them all—
Arms that are braceleted and white and bare
[But in the lamplight, downed with light brown hair!]
It is perfume from a dress 65
That makes me so digress?
Arms that lie along a table, or wrap about a shawl.
And should I then presume?
And how should I begin?
. . . . .
Shall I say, I have gone at dusk through narrow streets 70
And watched the smoke that rises from the pipes
Of lonely men in shirt-sleeves, leaning out of windows?…
I should have been a pair of ragged claws
Scuttling across the floors of silent seas. //floors怎么翻呢?一般做法是不翻,但没有此词少很多乐趣。
. . . . .
And the afternoon, the evening, sleeps so peacefully! 75
Smoothed by long fingers,
Asleep … tired … or it malingers,
Stretched on the floor, here beside you and me.
Should I, after tea and cakes and ices,
Have the strength to force the moment to its crisis? 80
But though I have wept and fasted, wept and prayed,
Though I have seen my head [grown slightly bald] brought in upon a platter,
I am no prophet—and here’s no great matter;
I have seen the moment of my greatness flicker,
And I have seen the eternal Footman hold my coat, and snicker, 85
And in short, I was afraid.
And would it have been worth it, after all,
After the cups, the marmalade, the tea,
Among the porcelain, among some talk of you and me,
Would it have been worth while, 90
To have bitten off the matter with a smile,
To have squeezed the universe into a ball
To roll it toward some overwhelming question,
To say: “I am Lazarus, come from the dead,
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all”— 95
If one, settling a pillow by her head,
Should say: “That is not what I meant at all.
That is not it, at all.”
And would it have been worth it, after all,
Would it have been worth while, 100
After the sunsets and the dooryards and the sprinkled streets,
After the novels, after the teacups, after the skirts that trail along the floor—
And this, and so much more?—
It is impossible to say just what I mean!
But as if a magic lantern threw the nerves in patterns on a screen: 105
Would it have been worth while
If one, settling a pillow or throwing off a shawl,
And turning toward the window, should say:
“That is not it at all,
That is not what I meant, at all.”
. . . . . 110
No! I am not Prince Hamlet, nor was meant to be;
Am an attendant lord, one that will do
To swell a progress, start a scene or two,
Advise the prince; no doubt, an easy tool,
Deferential, glad to be of use, 115
Politic, cautious, and meticulous;
Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse;
At times, indeed, almost ridiculous—
Almost, at times, the Fool.
I grow old … I grow old … 120
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.
Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach?
I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.
I do not think that they will sing to me. 125
I have seen them riding seaward on the waves
Combing the white hair of the waves blown back
When the wind blows the water white and black.
We have lingered in the chambers of the sea
By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown 130
Till human voices wake us, and we drown.
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